Joan, I am on the same page with you [in Kenya - Male engagement in Promoting Empowerment of Women Workers]. Social dominance of men over women dates back to antiquity. In some ethnic groups in Ghana where I live, it seems quite impossible for women to have a say in anything concerning their own health and development. I suggest, and as informed by principles of social change, that addressing the challenges of women empowerment should be expected to be gradual and over a long period of time. There are several evidence in some communities, mostly in developed countries where gender equality is making strides. As you rightly said, involving men, the men who have power is a necessary step to empowering the less powerful, the women. The good news in my work is that, at least we have a starting point; Men who are more educated are our number one stakeholders. They are more likely to support the course. I am looking forward to learning more about what you have to tell the audience soon. Good work done and I wish you all the best.