CDATA[Author: Deborah Heimann
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:57 am (GMT -8)
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Hello,

It is now time to close our discussion on Non-Material Resources. Those of us at Health e Communication want to thank Dr Benjamin Lozare for his responsive and reflective moderation of this discussion. We also want to thank all of you who joined us with your thoughtful and candid comments.

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Once again thank you all for joining us.

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CDATA[Author: blozare
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:26 pm (GMT -8)
Topic Replies: 27

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Closing Note

Thanks Nona for your comment. And to all our participants, both viewers and commentators, a most hearty thank you for your most valuable contributions. I also wish to express my thanks to Chris and Deborah for moderating the forum. Great job everyone!

I think this has been a most productive forum and I am very much impressed at the quality of the postings from all over the world. I have gained a lot of great insights which would be extremely useful in my work.

Just a few thoughts that I would like to share with everyone. I believe that a greater share of attention paid to non-material resources would yield significant results. As many of you have pointed out, it may be useful to avoid comparing material and non-material resources---we need both-- as each play an important part in the development process.

Perhaps the shift of more attention to non-material resources would offer greater hope to developing countries in their search for sustainable development. We may need to turn our eyes inward and reflect more on that practical adage that "to change others, we may have to change ourselves first."

I recall a famous story about an African archbishop who in his death bed said ---"when I first became a priest, i dreamt of changing the world but the world refused to change. So I focused instead in changing my community but my community also refused to change. Then I tried changing my family but my family also resisted change. I finally realized that the only thing that I could change was myself and perhaps I may have gotten things backward. I should have started to change myself first. Then the change in me may have caused some change in my family which could have then influenced our community and our community in turn would have inspired change in the world."

So thank you everyone for your great comments. Hope to see you all sometime soon in another forum.

With best wishes,
Ben



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Hi Ben,

Responding to your latest note, yes "self limitation mental model" is one of the barrier, the other barrier that I often witness in every program in the developing world is "the expert mental model" where we come with the attitude of we know how to help people come out from their current situation, which are mostly negative, to a better situation - perhaps considered as "beyond imagination" from their standpoint. This mental model prevent us from seing the potential that the community has in order to help themselves progressing to achieve a better life.

The use of non-materials resources should also mean making use of the resources within the community that can be use as vehicles instead of introducing a new vehicles that are not part of their everyday life. Community groups and their activities are part of community life in every villages, at least I can speak for Indonesia. When we approach stakeholders, they are also part of these groups, and we should utilize both the stakeholders as agent of change/champion as well as the community groups they belongs to as the vehicles.

Cheers,
Nona Pooroe Utomo
Health Communication Coordinator
USAID - Environmental Services Program
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CDATA[Author: nona_utomo
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:59 pm (GMT -8)
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Hi Ben,
 
Responding to your latest note, yes "self limitation mental model" is one of the barrier, the other barrier that I often witness in every program in the developing world is "the expert mental model" where we come with the attitude of we know how to help people come out from their current situation, which are mostly negative, to a better situation - perhaps considered as "beyond imagination" from their standpoint. This mental model prevent us from seing the potential that the community has in order to help themselves progressing to achieve a better life.
 
The use of non-materials resources should also mean making use of the resources within the community that can be use as vehicles instead of introducing a new vehicles that are not part of their everyday life. Community groups and their activities are part of community life in every villages, at least I can speak for Indonesia. When we approach stakeholders, they are also part of these groups, and we should utilize both the stakeholders as agent of change/champion as well as the community groups they belongs to as the vehicles.
 
Cheers,
Nona Pooroe Utomo
Health Communication Coordinator
USAID - Environmental Services Program
Telp: (62-21) 720-9596
Fax:  (62-21) 720-4546
E-mail: nona_utomo@dai.com (nona_utomo@dai.com)
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CDATA[Author: frieda subrata djoko
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:32 pm (GMT -8)
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Dear all,

Thanks Rehan, you are right, we need to have standards and qualitative measures.

Ben, self limiting mental model is our biggest constraint. Not only for our community, but also for myself. In my own experience training can not 100% help us on this, I feel like this is a life time battle.

I remember one of my friend told me about concern for others. People grow if we are concern about each other, studies shows that ignorance is the worst of all. How about nurturing shared vision? What qualities can we monitor from this? Is it easier to measure than non material resources? Could we have standards and qualitative measures in this?

Regards, frieda

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CDATA[Author: blozare
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:53 am (GMT -8)
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Thanks Freida, Mike and Rehan and all for your contributions. Great discussions going. Indeed, we may need to think hard how we can capture the elusive nature of "non-material" resources. One critical resource is self-efficacy which in my experience is seriously hampered by self-limiting mental models. Self-limiting mental models are mind sets or frameworks where we believe that we cannot make a difference.

When I was a kid, if someone said that sometime in the future, people will carry telephones in their pockets, call anywhere in the world, use the phone to take photos and videos, I would say that is "beyond imagination" or even science fiction. Yet we have cell phones carried by billions of people around the world.

I grew up in a world of telegrams where someone comes to my house in a bicycle and delivering a short message in a piece of paper. If you told me when I was a kid that sometime in the future, people will send letters to one another by pressing button and the letter will be received instantaneously anywhere in the world, I would say that that is beyond imagination. Yet we are having this electronic forum and you guys are around the world discussing and sharing ideas.

If someone said in 1947 that France and Germany will become friends and share a common currency, people will call him or her as "crazy". Yet we now have the European Community where former enemies share many dimensions of governance.

In 1950s, the development literature describe Asia as a hopeless "basket case" where famines, social disorders, and incompetent governance create much havoc. Let's look at Asia now and see how much have changed.

What is the point? Sometimes, the biggest problem may be in our heads---our "self-limiting mental models".

Comment anyone?

Best wishes,
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CDATA[Author: rehanraju
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:45 pm (GMT -8)
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Dear All,
Thanks to Frieda Subrata for valuable suggestions. We can't quantify non-material resources and inputs. It should be qualitative assessment. We have to define quality in this regard and think about standards.

Rehan Uddin Ahmed Raju
Consultant
National AIDS/STD Programme (NASP)
Bangladesh.

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CDATA[Author: Jose Miguel R. de la Rosa
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:55 pm (GMT -8)
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Hi Ben and colleagues,

In the Philippine experience, the choice of leaders in community-setting is very important. What is the profile of prospective leaders who are not in the program for the material rewards? How can we identify them? What motivated them to stay in the program and influence others to join in.

I would like to hear from our colleagues in other countries if they have such information. As I have said in my previous e-mail, I see capability-building strategies and programs as major factors in keeping people in the program. This type of intervention should cascade to lower echelons of leaders. There may be "gatekeepers" who are easily identifiable, but we want to discover members of the community who are just waiting to be tapped.

The National Population and Family Planning Outreach Project in the Philippines had a very successful experience in this area. I intend to investigate this and share my findings to everybody.

We can probably strike a happy balance between material and non-material resources. But given the scarcity of material resources, we have to depend more on non-material resources to sustain any development programs.

Mike de la Rosa

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CDATA[Author: blozare
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:16 pm (GMT -8)
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Dear Rehan, Gisell and Pradeep,


Thank you for your support about the importance of non-material resources and its relation to our capacity building efforts. We seem to have a consensus building that this is a dimension that needs more attention. There are many challenges that we need to overcome but I am confident that if we put our hearts and mind to the task, much can be achieved.

Here are some questions that may help trigger more comments:


1, Why have we given less attention to non-material resources compared to material resources? What concrete steps can we take to address this?

2. What is the relationship between material and non-material resources? How do they interact? How do we leverage material resources to generate more non-material resources and vice versa?

3. What is the best way to "invest" in non-material resources to nurture their growth?

Appreciate comments and responses from all.

Best wishes,
Ben


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CDATA[Author: frieda subrata djoko
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:08 pm (GMT -8)
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Dear all,

I think now we all agree that both material and non material resources in communication is important. The challenge as Ben said is how to quantify and assess the process and the result of this non material resources.
Material resources is very easy to monitor, quantify and the proof is tangible. How if we develop this non material resources in communication in stages, just as Ben and JHU always says "problems are solved in stages"?

In the area of capacity building, we can incorporate training in
communication from:
1. communication skills: stening skills, counseling skills, presentation
skills etc
2. developing health communication: P process
3. Leadership in communication

If we use the term "communication training", I believe the donors can understand that. The only problem is still how to assess the outcome? From personal perspective, I think if we can at least train people up to leadership in communication, we can expect them to continue pursuing their own personal development and will benefited the program.

Thank you all,
frieda

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CDATA[Author: rehanraju
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:29 pm (GMT -8)
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I would like to thank Health e Communication and Dr. Benjamin Lozare for taking this initiative on his shoulder. The non-material resources and intellectual contribution of communication personnel are not yet recognize properly and this a very good opportunity to discuss and raise voice.

Thank you all.

Rehan Uddin Ahmed Raju
Consultant, Advocacy & Communication
National AIDS/STD Programme (NASP)
Bangladesh

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CDATA[Author: giselle garcia
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:28 am (GMT -8)
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Dear all

I think is very important -non-material -, to discuss, to share ideas

Giselle García

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CDATA[Author: sarkarpradeep
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:40 pm (GMT -8)
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Dear All,
 
This is a great effort and congratulations for the same.  I also would like to contribute to it.
 
I think we will have to agree for the capacity building efforts.  This is an investment which will contribute productively and effectively in health communication especially in the Indian context.  And I am sure it will pay rich divedend in the long run.  We all in India those who are in the development sector will definitely benefit by this group.
 
Thanks
 
Pradeep Sarkar
New Delhi
India

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CDATA[Author: blozare
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:26 pm (GMT -8)
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Dear Jose,

Pardon my delayed response to your post. Somehow, I missed this early post of yours which I think is terrific. Indeed, we need to be clear about what is truly important---what we consider of value. I think it is in this area where non-material play a large role.

Many thanks for your valuable post.

Best wishes,
Ben


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CDATA[Author: blozare
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:43 pm (GMT -8)
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Dear Sanjeev,

Thanks for your quite thought provoking thoughts! Lots of things to think about as we delve deeper into non-material resources.

If we go back to the original article of Fogel, one of the key points that he made is that he finds the unequal distribution of "spiritual" or "non-material" resources even more problematic than the unequal distribution of material resources. Fogel presents a lot of interesting data that approximates measurement of these assets that we need to reflect on.

I guess, the optimal and potential use of non-material resources is a reason for hope in developing countries where material resources are scarce and often misused. Again, the concept of leverage as mentioned by Walter may also be useful. It may also be more productive if we accept that both material and non-material resources are valuable and that we should make full use of both. Just as good carpenters do not debate whether a screwdriver is better than a hammer, we need to recognize the value that these two types of resources offer.

I think we have opened the door to some highly promising approaches that we need to explore further. Once again, I invite observations and comments from our viewers who have not posted anything so far.
We welcome your insights everyone!

Best wishes,
Ben

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CDATA[Author: dociftee
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:45 pm (GMT -8)
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Hi there!

Bev!.... you are right Non material is a intellectual property so it is a asset.

Endorsing your thought......

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